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this will be about half of katrina's damage. and of course we know what katrina today and especially the new orleans area. so this is rare territory. and this was a category 1. at one time katrina a category 5. 3 at landfall. so just shows you what happens. even if it's a category 1, if you go in to a very populated area of the country is where this storm made landfall and that's why these numbers are astronomical for on the insurance industry. the loss is just insane. so the storm still lingers today. the damage is all done. a lot of the heavy snow is just about overwith. west virginia, some areas got two to three feet of snow. it remains kind of stuck, though, because the weather pattern that enabled this storm to come at us from the ocean, from the unusual direction, the high pressure, the blocking responsible for this mess is still sitting off the coast. it will take two or three days for the storm to slowly weaken and head up in to canada, but it's a cold morning for everyone without power. there is some of that snow still left over in the mountains of west virginia and just outside of pittsbur
. a housing cyclone that hollowed out more homes that hurricane katrina and sandy combined. the very definition of disaster needs broadening. we need to recapture the initial horror created by those single natural disaster and put it toward the relief of our on going national disasters. the energy gathered by gale force winds has the power to focus our public attention. superstorm sandy may help the electorate focus in the few days that remain in the 2012 presidential campaign. our vote on tuesday will be for a disaster manager and chief taking charge of a country in an economic state of emergency, building a society that leaves all of us more prepared for disaster. at my table is ari melber, msnbc contributor. norry tan dan, kate dawson and david rodi, a reuters columnist and contributor for the atlantic. thank you all for being here. >> i want to start with you. the article, the piece you wrote was about the inequalities that have been revealed in the con te context of sandy. >> i am one of the privileged new yorkers. there has always been divisions in the city but this storm broug
fugate to do that and signed off on jeb bush to do this, there was this hangover from katrina going back in the bush administration and there's always been a point of emphasis, if you will, on fema by the obama administration. i think frankly it won't have mattered who came into the presidency in the post katrina world there was going to be an emphasis on fema. you weren't going to let that get politicized. yes, it's a political appointee and you're going to have somebody who came with a background to do this stuff. so i think that they realize that it's a high-wire act, this emergency management business. and most of the time if you do a good job it's good politics. if you blow it, it's really bad politics. >> i agree. >> it can be unrecoverable politics. so this is a case where good politics and good public policy and good management all converge. it's good politics to do a good job. you're not playing one side against the other. >> you know, i've always thought that the democrats being the government party because they believe in government more than republicans owe a greater debt, a
, this storm costs upwards of $50 billion, making it the second costliest storm after katrina. but atlantic city studios are allowed re-entry today. 95 sandy related deaths are reported in the u.s., including two brothers, ages 2 the and 4, and new york city staten island tt he centepicenter of the casu today. many are remaining powerless and they're not homeless, as well. and residents say the response is coming a bit too late. >> every single person on this block lost everything. >> we just want everyone to know that we are hurting down here and we need help immediately. >> msnbc's richard lui is now in staten island with more for us. richard, good morning. >> thomas, very good morning to you. we're right here by the bay. several marinas in staten island and this corner has been hurt so much. if you lived in this area, you would have 30, 40-foot tall yachts sitting in your front yard. i was speaking with representative michael grim a little earlier. this is his district. and i asked him about the shelters. where are people going and what do they need? this is what he told me. >> they need
in this country, as there was during hurricane katrina in 2005 or the economic crisis in 2008, 2009, republicans believe that you are on your own. that's what the republicans did during katrina, under the president bush administration, that's what they wanted to do when we had an economic crisis in october of '08. that's what they said to the auto industry when the auto industry was on the verge of bankruptcy. democrats, on the other hand, take a different point of view. rather than you are on your own, we have your back. it doesn't mean that the government is the answer to every problem. it doesn't mean the government is the bailout to every problem. it is the belief that the federal government players an important role as a partner in trying to get the country back on its feet when we hit a crisis. that's exactly what the democrats did with the economic crisis in '08 and '09 and that's exactly what you will see this administration doing during this crisis. the republican view is basically to let the states be on their own and to run emergency relief to be the first and only responders. anybody
repetitive. it dulls the ears. here he doesn't have to mention bush. it's in everyone's head. katrina is recalled with the im. talk about fema, people think about the bush legacy. and so, he doesn't have make those contrastic splits, never mind about mitt romney, that helps him because he's doing stuff and it's all out there without the effort. >> you get the unearned assist from michael brown coming out. >> we'll talk about brownie. >> you couldn't ask for that. you couldn't make that bet. >> but there's karen welcome. hi. >> welcome to the show. i want to say, it's not just the presidential thing. it's also -- there's incredibly moving -- let's not forget the human toll this storm's taken. >> absolutely. >> the images of the president consoling americans in the wake of this massive disaster are incredibly powerful images. and what you heard in the president, what you heard from the president on the stump just now was empathy, this sense that he is fighting for you, that you have a seat at the table, middle class, working class americans, that he is there for you. and that fundamenta
'm absolutely confronted by these two americas, the katrina/fema reaction and the sandy/fema reaction and the reality is to argue there hasn't been a significant political response to the significance of fema by different governments and it's not split down party lines. it's simply not true. there was a really great article in "mother jones" that took you through -- >> the development of fema competence. >> right. and who had headed fema and the way that presidents had appointed those fema heads were directly related to how they perceived their significance. so, for example, george bush actually allocated michael brown who was the former -- i just had to read this out, because i was just blown away. michael brown who was the former commissioner of judges and stewards for the international arabian horse association, that's who headed fema. clinton was the first -- was the first president to allocate the fema head who actually had experience -- >> disaster. >> -- disaster management. it's not political. it's about poverty. it's about race. and when we think about disaster preparedness a
up in flames and four other houses. >> we think back about katrina and what a big impact that was on our country, we rarely think about the wind and the rain that was the initial storm, we think of the aftermath. right now we're in the aftermath period in terms of sandy. tell me how you feel about that. and before we get to rebuilding, people taking care of continuing damage right now, how do you assess the coordination between the state, federal, and local municipalities? >> i think we're doing very well. i think the president's response has been terrific, really. it's been coordinated unlike some of what happened in katrina. and you heard governor christie, who is a republican with president obama working together, and that's how it's been from the president, to the governor, to the counties and the towns. one of the things that i did today was talk to fema about trying to get an office and staff person in various parts of the district today, and they're working on it, and with the money that comes to downs for recovery to rebuild board walks or municipal buildings, i t
a comparison with hurricane katrina. i want to use it as an analogy. but the analogy here that might be helpful, we think back to katrina and what that meant to us as a nation. we very rarely think about the wind and the rain that was the initial storm. right now we are in the aftermath period of this superstorm, sandy. how do you feel in terms of dealing with the aftermath, describing those explosions, these ongoing worries. before we get to rebuilding, rescuing people, taking care of continuing damage right now. how would you assess the response and the coordination between the federal government, the state government, municipalities. how are we doing? >> i think we're doing very well. i mean, you heard the president, and i have to say that i think his response has been terrific, really. and it's been coordinated, unlike some of what happened in katrina. and you heard, you know, governor christie, who's a republican, with president obama, working together. and that's how it's been, from the president to the governor, all the way down to the county and the towns. so one of the things that i di
katrina and during the hurricane. and that's going to be the big angle, i think. otherwise we all guess as to how it affects turnout for elections. and that can go either way. >> you know, dana, it seems as if the white house by the president going back this morning before doing that event in orlando, it's an acknowledgment of they made a mistake going down last night. it seemed like a good idea probably friday when they decided to do that, get down a little bit early, maybe they get something in, and then now wait a minute, woke up this morning, what are we doing here? >> it's one of those things, chuck, when you get to the moment of the crisis, it's obvious what you need to do. when you're planning ahead, the campaign people obviously want to squeeze one more event in before they know he has to come back to washington. it was a mistake. it's probably not going to hurt him in any significant way. it reinforces what clarence said, that the focus will be for the next several days on the president much more than governor romney. >> kim, governor romney does not have a full-time job right
katrina. he says relief money was spent on bags and massage parlors. one of the things we thought you should know. but first, today nate silver of "the new york times" forecasted president obama had 77% chance of winning re-election and now 299 votes and governor romney 239. >>> welcome back. president obama was supposed to be in ohio today before canceling the visit due to hurricane sandy and the damage caused. despite being off the trail, the latest poll of ohio voters gives the president a five-point edge and seems to show growing optimism about the economy of white working class voters and could be the reason seeing him hold on to the lead and, quote, if you look at the body language of the campaign hard not to conclude they believe they're behind. and if they believe ohio is a be all end all then they're behind. let's bring in editor mark murray. before we talk about the poll, i want to play what vice president joe biden said regarding this car ad or auto ad running brought to you by the romney campaign and called misleading and slammed by gm and chrysler. let me play it. >> they
cases it cost people their lives. >> you remember this back with katrina, the same thing happened where a lot of residents in new orleans had seen a lot of hurricanes before. and they heard this is going to be the storm of century, and nothing ever happened to their houses, and they ignored evacuation orders. you can't -- there's only so much preparation you can do. you can never create a risk-free society. you can't prepare for everything. you know, but one of the things that has to happen in these situations for things to work right is for the government has a part to play, but individuals have a part to play, too. you've got to be working together so when people -- some of these people, obviously, their pain is genuine and totally understandable. but some of these people did, you know, were told to leave and didn't leave. and you understand why they didn't. it makes sense in human terms, but, you know, there is a responsibility that you have for yourself in addition to what the government obviously has for you. and again, if both sides are woaren't working together, that's when thing
jobs than massachusetts. by the way, one of them was louisiana that had been hit by hurricane katrina. he talked a lot about small businesses, still talks about it. says i'm a business guy, i know about small businesses. massachusetts when he was governor ranked 48th in small business creation. one of the two states that ranked lower was louisiana that had gotten hit by hurricane katrina. so this is a guy who has a track record of saying one thing and doing something else. on the other hand, when i ran four years ago, i made promises, too. i promised to cut taxes for middle class families and i did by $3,600. i promised to cut taxes for small business owners and i did 18 times. i promised to end tax-payer funded wall street bailouts and we have. by the way, we got every dime worth of money we used for the bank rescue and got interest with it, too. i promise to take on those financial institutions charging too much for student loans. we were able to make college more affordable for millions of americans. i promised i would never walk away from the millions of jobs that were in jeopardy
lieutenant general russel. he coordinated military relief efforts for hurricane katrina. general, thanks for being here. >> good to be with you, al. >> tell me, what are you seeing as this storm slams into the new jersey coast? >> i think this is another history making moment. we're watching history be made and recording it. because of the size of the storm and the enormous amount of population underneath that storm as it come ashore, we are riding the bar for how we will respond and prepare for storms like this in the future. again, my biggest concern is the elderly, disabled, and poor people who did not evacuate and right now their lights are going out and they may not be prepared as they should be. it's the 29th of the month. their food is running low and didn't have the money to restock. they will need help in the coming hours once this storm passes and the challenge will be how do we get food and evacuation to that needed population? >> so the challenge for those cities, states, and fema is how to deal with getting whatever necessary help is needed for the elderly and the poor who a
hurricane katrina they spent it on gucci bags and massage parlors and everything you can think of in addition to what was necessary. shopping is the key concern for the literally millions of people affected by the storm. what could be worse for states like new jersey than the congressional vote on how fema should spend its money? king was one of 11 members to vote against providing additional disaster relief to the victims of hurricane katrina back in 2005. >>> on a more positive note, chris christie's wish comes true. it's no secret he's a fan of bruce springsteen. over the years springsteen has not returned the love until last night. he reached out to the victims of hurricane sandy and then some. listen to this. we're a band that can't separate from the jersey shore. we'll send this out to all the people working down there, the police officers, the firemen, and also to the governor who has done such a hard job this past week. well, there you have it. the romance, the bromance, isn't as one-sided anymore. >>> also, what part of the presidential election got this 4-year-old col
. >> and you talk about disaster assistance on hold, bring up hurricane katrina and memories of the bush administration which does not play well for republicans. thank you as always to chuck todd, live from the white house. >> okay. >> we will be asking you many more questions in the coming days and have the president's remarks live later this hour. ari, talk about president obama and sort of his role in all of this, whichs is to say he has to act as the commander in chief, a tricky ballet for romney and the white house as well. appear to be above it all, yuts understanding he has a couple days left and has to make his convincing argument before november 6th. >> one job in america that's 24/7 and that's the president. >> oh, no. you have not seen the way th this -- the way she goes at this job. >> i love you for that but i could never oversee any disaster -- >> maybe that's the next segment as we talk about alex wagner versus president obama and get into that. >> keep it coming. >> but people know that. people know that in their gut. and depending on the kind of president you are, ronald
. bush did not do in hurricane katrina and we saw the result as well as the political price. so, i think it's fascinating, for people to watch, as chris christie, as pugnacious as he is, on the republican side, for republican ideas and values, to see where that ends for him. to see him say, essentially, but, yes, there is a big role for government in our society, and thank god we have it. >> indeed. richard, mr. romney has spent, as you know, each of the debates repeatedly suggesting, and in florida, i was just listening to him, and he was saying again, i'm the man for bipartisanship. i'm the person who can bring both sides of the aisle together. and what do we have in front of our very eyes, but the president embodying the very thing that this man can only talk about. >> right. and that's, of course, what challenges are left with. they're left with a promise and a speech and a microphone and a stage, where presidents can actually do stuff. the interest thing is that for four years, the republican party has had an organized effort to say that this president is not a bipartisan figure. he
about hurricane katrina and the xwampl of the most inhe effective possible response by fema. i think our memory is a little bit off on exactly how that impacted president bush's approval ratings. in fact, after a high of 90% of approval after 9/11, president bush's approval ratings continued to decline slowly throughout the course of his remain time in office. katrina didn't produce any noticeable rapid decline in his approval ratings, even though the response was seen as quite bungled. my question to you is, given the tight time frame, even if the president did bungle his response in some way, wouldn't there be enough time for ohio voters, for example, to really have that seep in and impact their votes? >> i think there would. i mean, it's a very -- obviously, this is extremely close to election day. i think that the whole image of the president -- president bush flying over the disaster area in louisiana and just kind of looking down out of the airplane versus being there ain person. also that "heck of a job brownie" thing that he said, that really came back to haunt him. i think that
. >> brown would have said more but he was busy responding to katrina. >> garbage, crap, and nonsense. >> you're watching fox. you're hearing about a state department, the cia does nothing. >> you are misleading the american people. >> at least we don't live in swing state hell. >> jeep, now owned by the italians, is thinking of moving all production to china. >> the biggest load of bull in the world. >> why do you say these things, mi romney? >> joe biden is using his teeth to illuminate hoboken. >> find that special someone in the early voting line. >> our destiny is in the hands of the american people. >> i will fight for you and your family every single day as hard as i know how. >> let's get to our panel, dana 34i8 bank is political columnist for "the washington post" and toure is my colleague and the co-host of "the cycle." desperate mitt, desperate measures. in your column this week you write, when the stakes are high, as they are for mr. romney, it must win ohio, the truth is often the first casualty. does that explain mr. romney's completely dishonest and disturbing ad about chrysler
. and it reminds me of katrina, which is to say that i think that, you know, we think of the iraq war as cratering george bush's popularity, but it wasn't until katrina came along. and i think coalesce an argument that people were making which was that, you know, government had become sort of demonized by the bush white house and the republican congress and that we were seeing the potential effects of a government that couldn't respond in an emergency and that there was a substantive basis for that, for saying that we have to have a strong infrastructure. we have to be able to respond on a large scale quickly in a crisis. so i think to your point, yes. i think that is a fair argument to make right now. i think it's a little unfair that people are saying romney basically wants to abolish fema. there's a complicated debate that has a lot to do with sending responsibilities back to the states. i've heard people that romney basically wants to do away with fema. i don't think that's quite right. >> michael, there was a tweet yesterday that amused me from @lolgop who by the way everyone should follow. h
with katrina, if the federal response is sluggish or looks unprepared for this, that's a worse damage to the president than anything else, and i think that the president has to do this. he's canceled four events in four states over the next two days. right now he's scheduled to go to green bay at the end of the tuesday. we'll see if that happens. probably unlikely. he may start again on wednesday when he's supposed in ohio. >> although to his benefit you could argue in some of the key states, places like new york and new jersey and connecticut, they're very strong governors there who are experienced with this stuff and unlikely to fumble the response. we'll see how that goes. let's bring in congresswoman marcia blackburn, a republican from tennessee. what impact do you think this storm will have to the presidential race? >> i'm not certain that it's going to have any direct impact. i will say that our thoughts and prayers are definitely with everyone and with the elected officials that are dealing with this response, with the emergency responders. i think that one of the things that p
in new orleans right after hurricane katrina. he didn't want to get in the way of some of the cleanup. of course that disaster response didn't go as well as it looks like president obama is handling the response happening this time. but there is the danger dealing with secret service logistics at a time when regular logistics, just living every day life, becomes incredibly hard. >> i think it's worth pointing out certainly the obama campaign probably didn't imagine the extent. warmth of the words that chris christie has for the president, but mitt romney held his disaster relief event in ohio yesterday. the question that dogged him that he would not answer was about fema. take a listen. >> governor, what should fema's role be? governor, would you eliminate fema if you were president? >> well, it's either 11 or 14 times, depending on whose count you believe. the campaign released a statement saying that romney would not abolish fema but, quote, governor romney believes that states should be in charge of emergency management in responding to storms and other natural disasters in their j
. hurricanes have a well known liberal bias. first katrina tainted george bush's presidency. then isaac wiped out the first day of the republican national convention. now hurricane sandy. sandy, what kind of name is that? are you induced or a lady storm? big surprise, just when obama needs a boost, who shows up in a gender ambiguous weather system? a category 5 bi-hurricane. don't get me wrong, i don't mind you being a meteorological event but why must be so flam poiboya and in my face about it? no, i'm hurricane sandy. deal with me. >> all right. did you see this video yesterday? a 4-year-old girl in ft. collins, colorado, if you think you're sick of the presidential election, look to her reaction after a ride to her grocery store with her mom during which she listened to an mpr report about the campaign. >> because i'm tired of both obama and mitt romney. >> that's why you're crying? oh, it will be over soon, abby. okay? the election will be over soon, okay? >> okay. >> she speaks for so many. by the way, npr offered an apology to the little girl and said "only a few more days. only a few m
are as high as $50 billion. again, the only storm it compareses to is katrina, but this is up there with wilma and rita and andrew. and those are adjusted for inflation, too. a populated corridor of the country, we knew it would be bad. >> bill, thanks so much. pleer appreciate all your reporting. >>> hurricane sandy pushed the presidential election out of the headlines for a couple days, but the latest poll puts the canned dads in a statistic al tie among likely voters. in terms of the key swing states, that cbs "new york times" quinnipiac poll shows the president up five points in ohio. that's holding steady between fr two weeks ago. if in florida, a statistical tie. similar story in virginia. mitt romney is within two points. the ohio is ahead in both ohio and virginia in early voting. today mitt romney making multiple stops in the state of florida. yesterday he took a break from campaigning, turning a dayton, ohio rally into a relief event for storm victims on the east coast. >> i appreciate your generosity. it's part of the american spirit, the american way to give to people who are in ne
, thanks. >> memories of hurricane katrina are inspiring one high school to come to the aid of hurricane sandy's victims. students and faculty on a mission to send a semitrailer stocked with canned foods, blankets and other item to the atlantic coast. great for them. meanwhile, hurricane sandy has left behind a trail of sadness for the lives and property lost in its wake. nbc's brian williams spent part of his childhood growing up near the beaches of the jersey shore. so yesterday he went back to assess the damage. >> reporter: in point pleasant beach, the white sands motel has been in business for 30 years. the pool is full of sand. this is what is left of one of the motel rooms. another shore landmark is jenks where cindy clous rolled out the storm in the local aquarium she runs. >> we heard this huge woosh. and within seconds the water level went from the first step up to the door knob. >> reporter: the power is still out. they're keeping the animals safe and alive with one generator. of course, it's supposed to be a little scary in here. you have the halloween decorations up. >> that
to katrina and crazy storms like that and just amazing and i mean we weren't kidding when we were saying five to seven days, may be two weeks for some people and i know everyone went to the grocery stores and grabbed whatever they could. the way i've seen it, it plays out, the first day is interesting. you don't have power. the second day you start to get a little annoyed as you have no more ice and things start to go bad, day three, four and five, people just start getting angry and it's not fun and it gets ugly in a hurry. >> let me ask you just really quickly because the storm is continuing to move and i got this update on the potential impact in the midwest. chicago lake shore flood warning, high winds in indiana, extreme high winds in northwest ohio. >> damage in cleveland yesterday. >> 23,000 without power in michigan. a village in wisconsin. evacuated at least partially due to sandy. how long are we going to continue to feel the effects of sandy. >> a little bit in those areas but not as bad as yesterday and people saying lake erie was at the highest levels of off of cleveland they've
people in some parts of new orleans in katrina whourp really never in danger and there was no problem. i was walking around times square tonight where there was virtually no wind. very little rain. and it was very hard, in times square and in midtown manhattan, to feel a connection to all of these flooding problems that were happening in lower manhattan. and also, in times square, as you know, the power was full on. and didn't look like there was any electrical problem whatsoever in that part of town. so this is really, it seems, problems are almost all isolated in terms of manhattan, anyway, below 34th street? >> most of the problems at the moment in manhattan seem to be south of 34th street. we're obviously having significant problems in the other burroughs as well. new yorkers are a big united family and when the sun comes up you'll see people from all over the city pitching in to help each other particularly those who are lucky notify to have george unscathed. they'll have the time and resources and the ability to pitch in and help others. >> thank you for joining us, christine quinn
. he told the story about people in cape cod bringing television s sets for katrina victims. it was so detached from reality. and once again, it's the empathy gap. he doesn't either have the judgment or the experience or the heart, i don't know what it is, to really know what's needed. you can campaign for the red cross and ask for donation, but even i knew it was ridiculous. >> he didn't have to do this in ohio at the site of a campaign event. that seemed inappropriate. >> excellent point. >> just happened to go to a swing state. >> if chris christie can put aside political conversation, why can't the leader of the republican party? i mean if this guy wants to be the leader of the free world, he's got to get face to face with the people going through the devastation. >> i certainly think he should answer questions, but the fema policy that's so obvious he needs to explain what me he meant in the debate. he avoided 14 questions on the fema policy, which is inappropriate. >> he's walking into a storm. good to have you with us. thank you. >>> there's a lot more coming up in the next half
for katrina victims. it was so detached from reality. that empathy gap. he doesn't have the judgment or the experience or the heart, i don't know what it is to really know what's needed. you get up there. you can campaign for the red cross and ask for donations but even i knew when he did it, it was a ridiculous thing to do. >> he didn't have to do it in ohio at the site of a campaign. >> excellent point. just happen to go to a swing state. >> if chris christie can put aside any political calculation why can't the leader of the republican party? you mean to tell me the only people that got devastated by the storm are people that are going to vote for barack obama? if he wants to be the leader of the free world he's got to get face to face with the people going through the devastation to snow it. >> he should answer questions about the fema policy which is so obvious that he needs to explain what he meant in that debate. he took -- i think he avoided 14 questions or something like that on the fema policy which is inappropriate. >> he's walking into a storm. good to have you with us. >
for president bush was of him hugging someone after a natural disaster. you know, the images of katrina, biggest single thing beyond the war in iraq that undermined confidence in president bush's leadership. you cannot get those images out of your head as you watch this stuff. >> except, you know what, katty kay? there is a certain appeal that i think is coming as a relief to people who are tired, who are tired of the vitriol, of the stupidity. and a politician who can work with the other side, isn't that something that in this new age of politics that's appealing? >> it's huge. and i think it's probably almost the overriding priority of whoever gets elected next tuesday is to be able to make this country governable again. and to be able to do that by bringing about a certain amount of cooperation on the things america needs to do between republicans and democrats. we saw it yesterday between chris christie and brearack oba. and it's going to be very interesting to watch today as the campaign trail resumes, whether there's a different tone. i wouldn't be surprised -- we've heard the president us
was the head of fema when katrina struck, and he criticized the president for being too quick to respond to this tragedy. i say bring it on. more criticism like that. >> and he wasn't afraid to hammer the romney campaign over their continued use of the completely misleading jeep ad, in the way that only bill clinton can do. >> when i was a kid and i got caught with my hand in a cookie jar, my face got red and i took my hand out of the cookie jar. this guy gets caught, he digs down and gets some more cookies. they actually increased the ad buy on an ad they knew was false because they think you're dumb. i think you're smart and i think barack obama will be the next president. >> "mork times" blog shows president obama ahead by less than 1 point. president clinton's appeal with white certain voters could be the final push the president needs in the state of virginia. let's bring in joy reid. i want to say i've never seen a former president be so effective. i think a lot of people are going to be able to point to bill clinton and say this is one of the major reasons why president obama was
katrina where it was failures on the part of the federal government's response. you don't have that negative aspect. you have chris christie, the most visible republican in the country. certainly according to the media one of the better liked ones. he's out there using his platform to vouch for the leadership of the democratic president. i think that makes a powerful statement to people. i think having bloomberg weigh in makes a pretty strong statement to people as well. and i think just -- it's tough to quantify this. i think it's impossible to quantify this. to me it creates this noise that's sort of in the air, in the media air, and sort of in the conversational air in this country. it creates noise that i think takes wavering voters who maybe were soft obama supporters or soft romney supporters, i could see it moving them, you know, a small share of people, but i could see it moving people toward obama making them more comfortable with the idea of re-electing him. if it's a 1% or something, small, but it's big in the context of this election. >> in the context of endorsemen
. and if you don't, there's a disaster. let's just look at what happened at hurricane katrina. >> yeah. >> let's look at what happened to hurricane katrina. you know what, though? again this is part of a bigger problem with mitt romney right now and republicans and democrats that are afraid to talk about how you really save this country and tackle the debt. instead, they talked about silly things like cutting fema, cutting big bird or saying we're going to take care of all of our problems by raising some taxes on rich people. instead of talking about saving this country for the next generation. >> and also not being honest about defense. >> and both sides not being honest about defense. >> okay. thank you. >> how's that? >> good. >> i don't define fema as quote big government. >> right. >> i define entitlement programs by their numbers that are going to cripple us as, quote, big government. >> "wall street journal," barack obama -- when the history of this administration is written, maybe someone will note the difference. here is that man who promised a transformative presidency, and it amount
play a positive role in our lives. one of the reasons katrina was such a big scandal is for years, particularly under clinton, who really did a good job of reforming fema, we said, yeah, this is one of the things the federal government does well. and when states get into trouble like this, yes, they can do things for themselves, and they do a lot of stuff for themselves. but they've got to have the fed. so i think right now, he has no choice but to say, well, whatever i said before, i'm going to keep fema. >> e.j. dionne, are we going to be looking back on this campaign if romney losing saying it was the 47% tsunami, that it really was that that set the table for a lot of other problems that he just couldn't overcome throughout this campaign? >> well, i think that the -- whatever momentum romney had from the first debate stopped. and my reading of the polls is the last week had already been going at least slightly in obama's direction. and at least on the first couple of days, from the reaction to what the president did, from the difficulties romney has, this appears to be helping
the national feeling here. when katrina happened, i got a call the day after from haley barbour, the republican governor from mississippi, who, of course, is a friend of mine. and he said, i need guardsmen. can you send me guardsmen? pennsylvania had, you know, no nickel on that dime. we're thousands -- hundreds of miles away from the gulf, but we have 20,000 guardsmen, and i activated 2,100 and sent them down to mississippi and to louisiana, and the interesting thing, chris, is i got tons of letters citizens of those states thanking me, but i also got letters from my own guardsmen, who said it was the best thing they've done since they've been in the national guard, to help americans from another area of the country who are suffering. and that's the spirit that takes over, and it's, as you said, what makes us a special place. >> well, that's why people like you and they like haley barbour, thank you, governor rendell, and thank you, david corn. you never get to be a governor, you don't get to know what that's like. and for the latest on the devastation on the jersey shore, we turn to ron allen
of the indelible images of government failure after katrina. that's what people are reminded of. that's when you had a president and a federal government that did not work, did not come to the aid of people. so you don't have to talk about the bush legacy. you don't have to draw the comparison because it's right there in people's heads. in the case of our dear friend on radio, what's left of his head is clearly exploding. >> ideologue is the kindest thing said about rush limbaugh on my show. richard wolffe always keeps it classy. richard wolffe and krystal ball. thank you both very much for joining us tonight. >>> coming up, mitt romney actually tells the crowd in ohio he knows all about hurricane cleanup, because this is absolutely true, this is what he told them, he once had to help clean up the football field after a football game when he was in high school. seriously. that's his experience with cleanup. and that's in the "rewrite." >>> and with the election just six days away, will voters across the northeast be able to actually vote on election day? will the hurricane problem still be going
and looks like it will not approach the $108 billion caused by hurricane katrina. airlines are expected to lose millions be of dollars in revenue. over 15,000 flights have already been canceled with many more likely in the days ahead. all three major new york airports remain closed and there are delays at several other northeastern hubs. companies up and down the east coast experiencing a widespread loss in production as employees are forced to stay home due to transportation outages. in new york city main retail stores remained shuttered. while initial reporting regarding flooding on the floor of the new york stock exchange proved to be incorrect it and the nasdaq will remain shut for a second day. the last time this occurred was during the great blizzard of 1888. the very thin silver lining on all of this, oil prices have not spiked in the storm's wake as many feared, perhaps owing to the millions of people stuck in their homes without power. joining the panel, co-host of cnbc's "squawk box" andrew ross sorkin. >> thank you for having me. >> let's talk about the financial impact here.
this. this is staten island. this is a scene reminiscent of the aftermath of katrina. the nypd was called in to rescue people trapped on their rooftops by rising water. this is taped footage. all five adults and one child were saved from their homes as they were -- as they were trying to get away from the water there. all right. wall street, though, is going to open for business today. that's one of our first signs of normalcy after a two-day shutdown. we'll find out what we can expect, get a preview, plus the nick impact of the storm. mayor michael bloomberg will ring the opening bell and we'll bring that to you live. today's are trivia question. who was the last republican ele elected to the senate from the state of new jersey? the first correct answer will get a follow wednesday from us. a picture of hoboken folks this morning. very sobering to see with all the clouds gone, helicopters coming up, we now see the true devastation that is still impacting the state of new jersey. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to me. listen to these happy pro
numbers to help out this way. i remember in my state of massachusetts when katrina hit, and some of the people who were evacuated from new orleans were brought to massachusetts, we gathered them at a military base on cape cod and they thought they were going to houston, by the way. and when the plane said no, we're going to boston, they weren't all real happy because it's a little colder in boston. they came to cape cod and we told our citizens we've got people coming here from new orleans who have been affected by the hurricane if you would like to help by providing some supplies and goods they might need, come bring them to cape cod. you know what, there were cars lined up, people dropping all sorts of goods of all kinds, some things that were temporary like food but others that were permanent like tv sets and clothes. it was amazing to see the turnout. it's part of the american way. we've got people right now that are having some hard times because of this terrible hurricane and the storm that followed it and your generosity will make a difference. i want to thank you. we've g
these storms have cost. obviously katrina at one at $106 billion but sandy with the rising total now at $50 billion worth of damage, again, that is just the rough estimate right now after the first couple of days of assessing the damage from this storm. we're going to be back with much more after this. er cup at the drive-thru. johan comes in a porcelain vessel, crafted with care by a talented blonde from sweden. ♪ smooth, rich, never bitter, gevalia. woman: what do you mean, homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? [ heart rate increases ] man: a few inches of water caused all this? [ heart rate increases ] woman #2: but i don't even live near the water. what you don't know about flood insurance may shock you -- including the fact that a preferred risk policy starts as low as $129 a year. for an agent, call the number that appears on your screen. five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from
katrina. mark, you worked in fema also. what is the fema response in a situation like this now when there's multiple states to respond to at the same time? >> good evening, lawrence. fema's mission is to support the state and local governments when it exceeds their capacity. an event like this it becomes that much more challenging. fema has the capacity, ten regions they can draw resources from around the nation and bring them to bear where they're much needed. in the case of this storm fema has leaned forward and prepositioned those resources in chose states. they've been there for days before the storm making landfall. >> what are common mistakes made in situations like this? >> well, the common mistakes are not understanding what the needs of the state and locals are. getting out in front and not having good lines of communication. i think what you've seen in the past in some of the disasters that have been portrayed as failing is because you didn't have that good, clean, crisp lines of communication you're seeing now. when you hear governors like governor christie stand up and say tha
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